For the case of 970 not meeting the 10min schdule and 858 load capacity, write to ST, STOMP or zaobao...
PTC is USELESS as it is toothless tiger,,,
ACx
Originally posted by sbst275:as for 858 it's seriously gone case
T2 is always e bottleneck for boarding at night.
What about the last bus?
Bendies cannot, then now what? extend the terminal?
Originally posted by TIB 781 L:
What about the last bus?Bendies cannot, then now what? extend the terminal?
e prob is within off peak SMRT dunno how to handle
how can ppl trust u can handle peak hr loading?
The main problem come from the two depots itself namely Kranji & Ang Mo Kio beside their chief.If they move to a bigger depot that can store more buses especially for the bendys then i think most of the bus frequencies and deployment can be solved.My friend once told me about the so called "Bus operation lose money" issue is totally bullshit.How can you lose money when sv like 67,169,171,172,176,180,184,187,188,189,190.CCK Feeders,700,AMK Feeders,WDL Feeders,BBT Feeders,851,854,856,857,858,950,960,963,965,969,980 and few others are ranked among the cash cow service?And how often my friend proposal of buying a few WAB Bendys are rejected by the top management saying cost is the main objective??How often the bus profits all goes to cover the cost of the new rail projects?Do you know how much revenue can 1 bendy on 190 make each day?Its more than enough to cover the fuel,the SLs salary,the person who maintain the bus and many more.What about sv like 854?I ever drove a rigid on this service and even during off peak the load can be scary..Even sv like 882 are enough to cover the cost of its operation.
Originally posted by carbikebus:The main problem come from the two depots itself namely Kranji & Ang Mo Kio beside their chief.If they move to a bigger depot that can store more buses especially for the bendys then i think most of the bus frequencies and deployment can be solved.My friend once told me about the so called "Bus operation lose money" issue is totally bullshit.How can you lose money when sv like 67,169,171,172,176,180,184,187,188,189,190.CCK Feeders,700,AMK Feeders,WDL Feeders,BBT Feeders,851,854,856,857,858,950,960,963,965,969,980 and few others are ranked among the cash cow service?And how often my friend proposal of buying a few WAB Bendys are rejected by the top management saying cost is the main objective??How often the bus profits all goes to cover the cost of the new rail projects?Do you know how much revenue can 1 bendy on 190 make each day?Its more than enough to cover the fuel,the SLs salary,the person who maintain the bus and many more.What about sv like 854?I ever drove a rigid on this service and even during off peak the load can be scary..Even sv like 882 are enough to cover the cost of its operation.
If that is the case, it is better for the top management to work in GIC or Temasek Holdings.
Oops, I have forgotten Temasek Holdings has stakes in SMRT, perhaps the top management are minimising on costs and focusing on profits through other means.
I felt the priority for public transport should lean towards the public than leaning more towards attaining profit for the company. What is the purpose for setting up a public transport company?
But without the profit, they also can't invest much in new buses etc.
Originally posted by Acx1688:For the case of 970 not meeting the 10min schdule and 858 load capacity, write to ST, STOMP or zaobao...
PTC is USELESS as it is toothless tiger,,,
ACx
Agree... :)
Cheers.
Want service standards to improve?
Can... Pay $1 for a 3.2km journey next time, which will happen within the next 25 years.
After FY results are out for both PTOs you may see them wanting to jack up fares again as their profits are dipping due to "higher fuel costs, staff costs" and "distance fare revenue".
The sentiment on the ground will largely be the same as previous times anyway.
Both PTOs should look into other investment opportunities so that they no need to rely on fare revenue so much. Otherwise, we are the ones taking in all the fare increase and stuff like that..
But of course shareholder's wealth is very important. If buses is the core business of SMRT I think no dividends will be paid in the first place. It is due to the difference in the business models of both PTOs which make SMRT a better choice for buying its shares..
Originally posted by TIB657M:In my opinion, buyng of new buses are more costly than refurbishing the existing fleets. As long as they can still running on the road perfectly, why not refurb the buses and extend their lifespan extension.
I am not siding SMRT, but SBST just killed off lots of 'precious life' of Merczs, MK3s and Leylands just to make way for new buses. This method might be too costly liao. Furthermore, they can be still running on the road unless they can't be saved due to engine problems etc....
You make a point there, But the rule here is that, 19 years is up, and have to go means have to go, no matter how you want to extend it, it's useless, But if SBST has to lay the Leylands up, it definitley has to do with engines, even if an extension is given (for those who are still 'strong' enough aft. 17 years), issues will definitley arise, and it will still have to face being laid. Like the SMRT UDs itself I believe SMRT is really bo bian then they refurb the UDs, if the citaros were to come in, one by one will face being laid up, and de-registered swiftly, like SBS 478G on lay-up recently, it might get de-registered fast enough if the Wright B9s come in.
Originally posted by TIB657M:In my opinion, buyng of new buses are more costly than refurbishing the existing fleets. As long as they can still running on the road perfectly, why not refurb the buses and extend their lifespan extension.
I am not siding SMRT, but SBST just killed off lots of 'precious life' of Merczs, MK3s and Leylands just to make way for new buses. This method might be too costly liao. Furthermore, they can be still running on the road unless they can't be saved due to engine problems etc....
in the end, all this boils down to the way LTA forces the companies to buy WAB buses, forces buses to be scrapped after 19 years, and so on.
If the SBST mercs, mark3, leyland were not killed by LTA, and they were able to buy some new buses in addition, SBST would definitely have been able to improve their operations.
Originally posted by sbst275:as for 858 it's seriously gone case
T2 is always e bottleneck for boarding at night.
In serious cases I have actually went for the SBS Transit routes and go elsewhere to transfer to another, more reliable route to the north. Sad, but true.
SMRT is literally awarding business to SBS Transit.
Originally posted by jayh272416:in the end, all this boils down to the way LTA forces the companies to buy WAB buses, forces buses to be scrapped after 19 years, and so on.
If the SBST mercs, mark3, leyland were not killed by LTA, and they were able to buy some new buses in addition, SBST would definitely have been able to improve their operations.
In Australia, I believe, they have buses in use for over 20 years.
I think a better system could be to give buses a life span of 20 years, with the option to be extended up to 25 years if they are given a comprehensive overhaul and refurbishment from it's 12th to 17th year, and being made to undergo mandatory maintenance checks for fitness to be on the roads every month from the 19th year onward.
Originally posted by Acx1688:For the case of 970 not meeting the 10min schdule and 858 load capacity, write to ST, STOMP or zaobao...
PTC is USELESS as it is toothless tiger,,,
ACx
actually bus licensing board or PTC can't enforce much right now.
even if they know e bus schedule isn't right they also cannot chap
Originally posted by sbst275:
actually bus licensing board or PTC can't enforce much right now.even if they know e bus schedule isn't right they also cannot chap
That leaves it to STOMP...
Mercedes Benz 1:76 Citaro Euro V rigid model[similar to the incoming SBST/SMRT] available
PM me
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Originally posted by vicamour:
Sell all the Scania KUB EURO 4s to them.
Just don't sell away SBS8033D and SBS8888D. Will be happier seeing KUBs go at 75KMH+ than the limited 70KMH.
Originally posted by SBS9C:Just don't sell away SBS8033D and SBS8888D. Will be happier seeing KUBs go at 75KMH+ than the limited 70KMH.
60km/hr speed limit is there for a reason
live w/ it
Originally posted by carbikebus:The main problem come from the two depots itself namely Kranji & Ang Mo Kio beside their chief.If they move to a bigger depot that can store more buses especially for the bendys then i think most of the bus frequencies and deployment can be solved.My friend once told me about the so called "Bus operation lose money" issue is totally bullshit.How can you lose money when sv like 67,169,171,172,176,180,184,187,188,189,190.CCK Feeders,700,AMK Feeders,WDL Feeders,BBT Feeders,851,854,856,857,858,950,960,963,965,969,980 and few others are ranked among the cash cow service?And how often my friend proposal of buying a few WAB Bendys are rejected by the top management saying cost is the main objective??How often the bus profits all goes to cover the cost of the new rail projects?Do you know how much revenue can 1 bendy on 190 make each day?Its more than enough to cover the fuel,the SLs salary,the person who maintain the bus and many more.What about sv like 854?I ever drove a rigid on this service and even during off peak the load can be scary..Even sv like 882 are enough to cover the cost of its operation.
Its seriously time to add more competition to our local public bus operations to reduce complacency. 1) Allow rival bus operators to ply similar routes such as the above-mentioned services to increase competition and improve the bus service level. 2) Allow a couple more bus operators to join the market - how about KMB,Citybus,NWFB? 3) LTA should lift up some more restrictions so that rival bus operators be able to operate on the same territories currently dominated by one operator. In these ways, we may expect to see improvement of bus services and standards, such as improved bus frequencies and bigger buses such as ADDs.
Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
Its seriously time to add more competition to our local public bus operations to reduce complacency. 1) Allow rival bus operators to ply similar routes such as the above-mentioned services to increase competition and improve the bus service level. 2) Allow a couple more bus operators to join the market - how about KMB,Citybus,NWFB? 3) LTA should lift up some more restrictions so that rival bus operators be able to operate on the same territories currently dominated by one operator. In these ways, we may expect to see improvement of bus services and standards, such as improved bus frequencies and bigger buses such as ADDs.
seriously can't end up w/ duplicating buses jamming up the road
some road traffic condition is really hopeless like Bt Batok East Ave 3 in e morning. Clustered jam at Toh Tuck/ PIE area.
1 way to go about is to tighten control over bus freq.
Originally posted by sbst275:
seriously can't end up w/ duplicating buses jamming up the roadsome road traffic condition is really hopeless like Bt Batok East Ave 3 in e morning. Clustered jam at Toh Tuck/ PIE area.
1 way to go about is to tighten control over bus freq.
Then please remove the bendies from the roads.
Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
Its seriously time to add more competition to our local public bus operations to reduce complacency. 1) Allow rival bus operators to ply similar routes such as the above-mentioned services to increase competition and improve the bus service level. 2) Allow a couple more bus operators to join the market - how about KMB,Citybus,NWFB? 3) LTA should lift up some more restrictions so that rival bus operators be able to operate on the same territories currently dominated by one operator. In these ways, we may expect to see improvement of bus services and standards, such as improved bus frequencies and bigger buses such as ADDs.
Unfortunately it seems that LTA will now become the master planner of the bus services. Wondering if the board can run independently when a GRC falls under an opposition.
Originally posted by SBS3688Y:
Its seriously time to add more competition to our local public bus operations to reduce complacency. 1) Allow rival bus operators to ply similar routes such as the above-mentioned services to increase competition and improve the bus service level. 2) Allow a couple more bus operators to join the market - how about KMB,Citybus,NWFB? 3) LTA should lift up some more restrictions so that rival bus operators be able to operate on the same territories currently dominated by one operator. In these ways, we may expect to see improvement of bus services and standards, such as improved bus frequencies and bigger buses such as ADDs.
LTA functions differently from the Transport Secretary in HK.
Originally posted by iamgoondu:Unfortunately it seems that LTA will now become the master planner of the bus services. Wondering if the board can run independently when a GRC falls under an opposition.
Based on the past few elections, seldom will opposition held wards ve good svc links...
Originally posted by Acx1688:Mercedes Benz 1:76 Citaro Euro V rigid model[similar to the incoming SBST/SMRT] available
PM me
ACx
What's gonna happen in 2013? B12BLEA CNG EEVs on the way to WLDEP?