SMRT's OC500LE tio complain riao
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Why not enough bell? If she was in a rush hour peak buses, where the bus was full, I bet she can at least press till at least 1 bell...
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Originally posted by AEW5001:
i would rather say kubs and ocs cannot be compared with our volvo mk4s.SMRT's O405s are also not bad
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Originally posted by TIB770T:
SMRT's O405s are also not bad
that's yr preference, but i would still say mk4 wins
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Originally posted by AEW5001:
that's yr preference, but i would still say mk4 winsYa,I understand,some may even say the KUBs rock.
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http://news.omy.sg/News/Local%2BNews/Story/OMYStory201009291507-188781.html
really bad design. dun understand why the bells are installed at the side?
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Originally posted by sbs9672c:
hannor i agree! sbst buy k230 or buy citaro oso no use one sia, always take sibeh packed. often see ppl kena left behind at bus stop. tsk tsk they shld reli manage their fleet n loading properly first b4 talking abt buying good bus models.
er... you make it sound like the overloading problem is confined strictly to sbst alone?
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Why not enough bell? If she was in a rush hour peak buses, where the bus was full, I bet she can at least press till at least 1 bell...
its not about insufficient bell pushes, its about inappropriate positioning of these bell pushes. if u notice the interior of the SMRT OC500LEs properly, you will realise that the vertical handgrips on the raised section do not have any bell pushes at all. assuming the passenger is standing along the aisle and the bus is packed, how is he/she going to get to the nearest bell push which is on a window pillar? wriggle her arm around a whole busload of standing passengers and try to locate the nearest window pillar?
the bell pushes on the window pillar are a convenience to seated passengers, but not for standees.
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Originally posted by AEW5001:
i would rather say kubs and ocs cannot be compared with our volvo mk4s.
Strongly agree.Especially the WA MKIVs and the DM3500s. Not so much the MKIV DMs....except maybe the Voith 4-speed ones (personal favourite)!
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Why not enough bell? If she was in a rush hour peak buses, where the bus was full, I bet she can at least press till at least 1 bell...
do you know where are e bells in e first place? -
Originally posted by TIB1051D:
too bad for that auntie to ride on a Batch 1 OC. too bad that she is not quick enough to look around for bus stopping bell to press. must be the type of last minute then press bell people. still dare complain.
if you are standing, how are you going to get.. it's unless you ask ppl to help u to press.It sounds as if those bell 'lines' are installed onto e OCs
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Originally posted by sbs9672c:
hannor i agree! sbst buy k230 or buy citaro oso no use one sia, always take sibeh packed. often see ppl kena left behind at bus stop. tsk tsk they shld reli manage their fleet n loading properly first b4 talking abt buying good bus models.
there are pockets of places served by SBS tat really has loading problem i.e. Sv 5, 139 but I believe all these can be solved bit by bit. I've also been noticing some non QoS svs been getting crowded on some trips as well like Express 506.But still, tat said commuters still must play a part in moving in as far as possible. 1st thing the buses can close e entrance door smoothly and literally travel faster.
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Originally posted by sbs9672c:
hannor i agree! sbst buy k230 or buy citaro oso no use one sia, always take sibeh packed. often see ppl kena left behind at bus stop. tsk tsk they shld reli manage their fleet n loading properly first b4 talking abt buying good bus models.
True..
I do agree that certain services have loading problems at times.
But at least they are trying to do things to improve the situation.
etc. adding more DDs or SWTs for the services.
Unlike certain company who give excuses like "Becuase there is alrdy a SWT for that particular service so its not possible to provide another SWT." -
Originally posted by sBs_boy:
True..
I do agree that certain services have loading problems at times.
But at least they are trying to do things to improve the situation.
etc. adding more DDs or SWTs for the services.
Unlike certain company who give excuses like "Becuase there is alrdy a SWT for that particular service so its not possible to provide another SWT."
Nid to schedule properly ma. Seems from replies I got, they're very scared of rescheduling buses or MRT one if demand changes. -
Originally posted by sbst275:
Nid to schedule properly ma. Seems from replies I got, they're very scared of rescheduling buses or MRT one if demand changes.Ops dept not doing their job nicely..
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Originally posted by sBs_boy:
Ops dept not doing their job nicely..
I dunno laDays back over dwell time, tell me cannot, die die train must depart once alarm sounds off tat it's over dwell time.
seriously, sometimes door open, immediately buzzer n 2nd one sounds off, ppl can't even board. Snowball effect, next train lagi more ppl waiting.
They didn't schedule properly, suspect even w/ e slow down due to unwelded parts at JEMP, they did not make a new one in lieu of new condition.
These days one would notice 5 - 1 - 1 pattern at Boon Lay during am peak.
As for buses, think is didn't factor in traffic and indv bus stop condition.
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Originally posted by sbst275:
I dunno laDays back over dwell time, tell me cannot, die die train must depart once alarm sounds off tat it's over dwell time.
seriously, sometimes door open, immediately buzzer n 2nd one sounds off, ppl can't even board. Snowball effect, next train lagi more ppl waiting.
They didn't schedule properly, suspect even w/ e slow down due to unwelded parts at JEMP, they did not make a new one in lieu of new condition.
These days one would notice 5 - 1 - 1 pattern at Boon Lay during am peak.
As for buses, think is didn't factor in traffic and indv bus stop condition.
I agree with the last point.
Ite pretty obvious from all the tight schedules that u can see from most of their trunk services. -
Originally posted by sBs_boy:
I agree with the last point.
Ite pretty obvious from all the tight schedules that u can see from most of their trunk services.
in such system, SMRT made it tat SMRTB low ridership meand literally prepared to maek losses de.. not just inefficiencyno nid to kpkb so much abt losses.
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Originally posted by QX179R:
s'poreans can nvr be satisfied even if there's 100 bell presses onboard..
next time just shout to the SL to indicate that you wanna alight..
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Originally posted by sbst275:
do you know where are e bells in e first place?Bells are in the bus? First, which batch is that women taking?
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Bells are in the bus? First, which batch is that women taking?
e pic shows no bells on e aisle.Seriously which OC has bells at the rear aisle corridor?
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Originally posted by sbst275:
e pic shows no bells on e aisle.Seriously which OC has bells at the rear aisle corridor?
That's batch 1. But if you look at the batch 2, you will find it different.
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
That's batch 1. But if you look at the batch 2, you will find it different.
watever e case it's a problem...in any case all e comments of wat last min alighting, no excuse to find no bell.. Try being e standee.
pwned, no bell confirm + chop poor SL gotta face last minute alighting on such sub standard fitting on a 'atas' MB bus
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Originally posted by SBS9818A:
its not about insufficient bell pushes, its about inappropriate positioning of these bell pushes. if u notice the interior of the SMRT OC500LEs properly, you will realise that the vertical handgrips on the raised section do not have any bell pushes at all. assuming the passenger is standing along the aisle and the bus is packed, how is he/she going to get to the nearest bell push which is on a window pillar? wriggle her arm around a whole busload of standing passengers and try to locate the nearest window pillar?
the bell pushes on the window pillar are a convenience to seated passengers, but not for standees.
I think the bells next to the windows are only a convenience for seated passengers next to the windows only. If seated next to the aisle, I find it difficult to reach those bells too. Should follow SBST, have bells mounted on the many vertical stanchion poles next to the aisle. - its well designed with good sense and thoughts. -
Aiyoh just install back that bell on the yellow strip put at all the sides.
or put bell everywhere. 3 bells to one pole. 1 bell in bet the hand grips.
problem solved
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I just complained SMB103Y nia...