SBS Transit buys 300 Citaro & 300 B9TL Wright for 2011-2012

• SGCar

  6 Sep 10, 18:03

  Wow, good to see same model own by 2 different companies. It's been a long time ever since last was UD. Btw, was SMRT purchases for Citaro finalised?

  Cheers.

• Acx1688

  6 Sep 10, 18:14

  Look  out for the MB CITARO EURO V models from CMN!
  http://www.cmn.com.hk/admin/product/upload/press/f2f38c2b8b1423dfd55109f9e1dbffe1.pdf

• Acx1688

  6 Sep 10, 18:20

  Finali, sme other engine rather than Scania...
  
  ACx

• TIB1010Y

  6 Sep 10, 18:27

  Finally SBST/SMRT brought same bus model since Nissan U31 during ex SBS/TIBS days

• dan474

  6 Sep 10, 18:41

  last year: SBS trails MB OC500LE, then sold to Chitson.
  this year: SBS buys MB Citaro.

  why do SBS copy SMRT????????

• lemon1974

  6 Sep 10, 18:50

  Originally posted by orange28:

  Off-topic a bit: I wonder which Citaro will come first: SMRT's Citaro (excluding the demo set) or SBS Transit's Citaro?

  did SMRT order any Citaro? they are still doing the 1 year trial only...and then will evaluate on whether to buy or not to buy..

• lemon1974

  6 Sep 10, 18:53

  Originally posted by TIB1010Y:

  Finally SBST/SMRT brought same bus model since Nissan U31 during ex SBS/TIBS days

  SMRT only have a demo Citaro?did SMRT really go purchase 66 Citaros?  further both SBST/SMRT bought a lot of Merc O405....

• sBs_boy

  6 Sep 10, 18:54

  Originally posted by lemon1974:

  did SMRT order any Citaro? they are still doing the 1 year trial only...and then will evaluate on whether to buy or not to buy..

  
  Its funny on how everyone thinks that SBST sold the OC to chitson when the bus wasnt even own by SBST in the very first place.

   

   

• sBs_boy

  6 Sep 10, 18:57

  Originally posted by TIB1010Y:

  Finally SBST/SMRT brought same bus model since Nissan U31 during ex SBS/TIBS days

  
  Lols.
  Did SMRT place any orders for the Citaros ?

• Volvo Olympian

  6 Sep 10, 19:02

  Originally posted by orange28:

  Off-topic a bit: I wonder which Citaro will come first: SMRT's Citaro (excluding the demo set) or SBS Transit's Citaro?

  
  Sometimes it could be possible for the Citaros to come in 1 batch for both SBST and SMRT (if they decide)

• lemon1974

  6 Sep 10, 19:03

  Originally posted by dan474:

  last year: SBS trails MB OC500LE, then sold to Chitson.
  this year: SBS buys MB Citaro.

  why do SBS copy SMRT????????

  SBST never buy the OC at all... and why did you think SBST copy SMRT? SBST straight away bough the Citaros... did SMRT bought the Citaros? it is still doing the one year trial.. and will SMRT really buy the citaros? no one know.

  think mercedes have offer SBST a very good price/packages for these 300 Citaros after seeing SBST buying 1100 Scania..... SBST one time order 300 Citaros, and how much will SMRT order? They order nothing and go and refurnished nissan and claims that they are new buses......

• lemon1974

  6 Sep 10, 19:07

  SBST depreciation cost will go up very high...

  last year 2009, its depreciation cost is S$40 million... based on the estimated figures of S$865 million for all the new buses bought since 2006, one year depreciation cost is around S$72 million (based on 12 years and without considering any interest cost etc)....

• sBs_boy

  6 Sep 10, 19:09

  Originally posted by Volvo Olympian:

  
  Sometimes it could be possible for the Citaros to come in 1 batch for both SBST and SMRT (if they decide)

  
  There wasnt any firm orders from SMRT to begin things with.

• SBS7485P

  6 Sep 10, 19:19

  Originally posted by lemon1974:

  SBST never buy the OC at all... and why did you think SBST copy SMRT? SBST straight away bough the Citaros... did SMRT bought the Citaros? it is still doing the one year trial.. and will SMRT really buy the citaros? no one know.

  think mercedes have offer SBST a very good price/packages for these 300 Citaros after seeing SBST buying 1100 Scania..... SBST one time order 300 Citaros, and how much will SMRT order? They order nothing and go and refurnished nissan and claims that they are new buses......

  i like your last statement. thumbs up.

  SMRT ordered the OC500LE while SBST which handled out tenders got in return an OC500LE for demonstration purposes and during pending for acquisition to SBST was rejected as it had other plans, it was then later offered to Chitson and a cheaper price.

  SBST on the other hand ordered the more prestigious, classy and durable Citaro while SMRT which acquired a Citaro unit for free from Mercedes for demonstration purposes as SMRT was interested in ordering buses. SMRT has still not ordered any but moved on to refurbishing buses.

• SBS7322B

  6 Sep 10, 19:30

  Originally posted by SBS7485P:

  i like your last statement. thumbs up.

  SMRT ordered the OC500LE while SBST which handled out tenders got in return an OC500LE for demonstration purposes and during pending for acquisition to SBST was rejected as it had other plans, it was then later offered to Chitson and a cheaper price.

  SBST on the other hand ordered the more prestigious, classy and durable Citaro while SMRT which acquired a Citaro unit for free from Mercedes for demonstration purposes as SMRT was interested in ordering buses. SMRT has still not ordered any but moved on to refurbishing buses.

  Deleted.

• ^tamago^

  6 Sep 10, 19:47

  Originally posted by SBS7485P:

  i like your last statement. thumbs up.

  SMRT ordered the OC500LE while SBST which handled out tenders got in return an OC500LE for demonstration purposes and during pending for acquisition to SBST was rejected as it had other plans, it was then later offered to Chitson and a cheaper price.

  SBST on the other hand ordered the more prestigious, classy and durable Citaro while SMRT which acquired a Citaro unit for free from Mercedes for demonstration purposes as SMRT was interested in ordering buses. SMRT has still not ordered any but moved on to refurbishing buses.

  to add on, it's a simple comparison.

  when KUB and OC500LE were offered, both were low-entry buses with high rear steps, but OC cost 20% more. logical to procure KUB.

  now, when C&C offered a low-floor Citaro which cost the same as the low-entry KUB. logical to buy Citaro's. $367k is a steal.

• Merczrox

  6 Sep 10, 20:39

  Originally posted by dan474:

  last year: SBS trails MB OC500LE, then sold to Chitson.
  this year: SBS buys MB Citaro.

  why do SBS copy SMRT????????

  
  Wft u all wan la??No good buses in sbst complain,then nw got Citaro also wan to complain....Excellent ppl la u all.Talk so much go buy the new Enviro 400 or wat la for sbst if tis Citaro order is too boring for u....
  
  Anyway,i really salute sbst for tis order.At last they made all the bus fans in sg hav someting really great to look forward to!!

• SMB32T

  6 Sep 10, 20:43

  Originally posted by CAIX:

  Finally the return of Mercedes and more Volvos!!

  
  After all this is not going to mark the end of Merc buses for SBST.

• Stage

  6 Sep 10, 20:47

  very disappointing... (not referring to sbst buying new buses)

• sbst275

  6 Sep 10, 20:52

  serious item..

  wat's e interior and gotch any modification from e SMRT prototype. Think eggy might remember wat I mean

• Merczrox

  6 Sep 10, 20:57

  Originally posted by SMB32T:

  
  After all this is not going to mark the end of Merc buses for SBST.

  
  Wen sbst spammed 1100 kubs,i thought tat it was really the end for future Merc buses in sbst.Haha.But Nw sbst gave us hope agn.

• sbst275

  6 Sep 10, 20:57

  Originally posted by Junyang700:

  Nice! =)
  
  But then it is lesser buses???
  
  Suppose they replace 300 Mark 3 with 300 single deck.... OK. Same... But the double- deckers????
  
  300 double deckers to replace 500 double deckers? [(200x Leyland Olympian 3 Axle, 100x Volvo Olympian 2 Axle, 200x Volvo Olympian 3 Axle (Batch 1)]

  
  Let's evaulate...

  200 B9TL: MK2

  1100 KUB: CRB, MBO405, 200 MKIII

  150 B9TL: 150 LO3x

  300 Citaro: 100 MKIII, 150 Strider MK4? 50 in lieu of upcoming devt SUTD, Seletar.

  300 B9TL: 50 LO3x, 100 VO2x, 150 VO3x (Left 50 from pionner VO3x batch).

  Interesting to note it's likely VO2x replaced by ADD, nong time never see riao.

• sbst275

  6 Sep 10, 20:59

  Originally posted by ^tamago^:

  cost estimates:

  VV B9TL $151mil ($504k each)

  MB Citaro $117mil ($390k each)

  
  

  taking into account the weakening of GBP...

  
  Had hoped for Enviro500 to appear w/ weakened Pound..

  oh wells..

• TIB657M

  6 Sep 10, 20:59

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  
  Let's evaulate...

  200 B9TL: MK2

  1100 KUB: CRB, MBO405, 200 MKIII

  150 B9TL: 150 LO3x

  300 Citaro: 100 MKIII, 200 Strider MK4?

  300 B9TL: 50 LO3x, 100 VO2x, 150 VO3x (Left 50 from pionner VO3x batch).

  Interesting to note it's likely VO2x replaced by ADD, nong time never see riao.

  MK4s will go off later than VO3xs.

• sbst275

  6 Sep 10, 21:03

  Originally posted by Merczrox:

  
  Wft u all wan la??No good buses in sbst complain,then nw got Citaro also wan to complain....Excellent ppl la u all.Talk so much go buy the new Enviro 400 or wat la for sbst if tis Citaro order is too boring for u....
  
  Anyway,i really salute sbst for tis order.At last they made all the bus fans in sg hav someting really great to look forward to!!

  
  There's serious merit for Enviro 400.

  go take a ride on 334's turning into Jurong West St 42 would tell you abt 2x ADD.

  But so far even in HK it's all in small amt.