Bus 87 hit by crane at Bedok North Road
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Originally posted by TIB1232Z:
Even if there wasn't a safety zone it should be common sense to know that one must get some distance clearance of another vehicle before attempting to overtake and not switch lanes immediately past the vehicle.I stand by my position that the driver is majority at fault this time; SBST needs to take up some form of responsibility this time since after all a passenger died in their buses.
from the photo and from the news, the bus is still at 2nd lane and the wheel of the bus is not tilted to the left also... accordingly to the news, a worker have been arrested for negligence... most likely the worker accidently swing the crane into the wrong direction...
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Originally posted by TIB1232Z:
he most likely didn't look out for the extended part of the plant pruning truck. It's the same thing as the 7499A accident where the driver should have looked out for the branch.Though the plant pruning truck is partly responsible for the accident, the driver is also at fault this time...
Its obvious that the bus was alrdy past the lorry on the left when the crane started to swing towards the bus. IF the crane was already there in the first place (and that the BC have not seen it) could u kindly explain why the first 2 window panels wasnt affected ? And that only the 3rd window onwards was affected by the crane crashing into the bus ?
If like what you've mentioned that the BC is at fault, why didnt the police detained the BC but rather the bagala instead ?
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Originally posted by TIB1232Z:
Even if there wasn't a safety zone it should be common sense to know that one must get some distance clearance of another vehicle before attempting to overtake and not switch lanes immediately past the vehicle.I stand by my position that the driver is majority at fault this time; SBST needs to take up some form of responsibility this time since after all a passenger died in their buses.
if you look properly at the damage, it began from the second window onwards which is well behind the driver's position. how on earth would you expect him to see the crane? by turning his head to check his blind spot which even then would not allow him to have a full view of the crane's position? moreover 9400X was still in the centre lane when impact occured. and the position at which he stopped indicated that if the crane was not angled out, he would have cleared the obstacle. if he had decided to cut into lane 3 early he would have stopped in the middle of the lane.
as for responsibility, you don't have to worry as whether a passenger died or was injured, SBST will make ample arrangements to ensure that they receive the assistance they deserve.
i stand by my position that you, as someone who does not have a driving license yet, are fully unaware of how driving habits work.
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Originally posted by Bus&Soccer l0v3r (VO3x 1):
RIP for the passenger who passed away
Really poor guy. Just a cruel reminder of how fragile life is.RIP.
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Originally posted by TIB1232Z:
Even if there wasn't a safety zone it should be common sense to know that one must get some distance clearance of another vehicle before attempting to overtake and not switch lanes immediately past the vehicle.I stand by my position that the driver is majority at fault this time; SBST needs to take up some form of responsibility this time since after all a passenger died in their buses.
One killed, 8 injured in accident along Chai Chee Street
By Evelyn Choo | Posted: 16 July 2010 1825 hrsSINGAPORE : An accident between a double-decker bus Service Number 87 and a large tree-pruning vehicle left a 50-year-old male passenger dead and several others injured on Friday.
The collision occurred along Chai Chee Street in Bedok.
Police have arrested a 33-year-old Bangladeshi foreign worker from the landscape management company for causing death by negligence.
Shattered glass windows, a fallen tree, and major traffic congestion were the result of the accident which left one dead and eight passengers - including a pregnant woman - injured.
The bus was behind the lorry when it went to the middle lane. But little did the bus driver know that the head of the crane was protruding into the middle lane, and this scraped against the side of the bus.
The loud sound from the collision attracted hundreds of residents from nearby blocks.
One resident said: "Like glass shattering. It sounded massive and sharp."
A second commented: "I saw them moving the victims down from the upper deck. It looked quite serious."
Three bus passengers were taken to hospitals, while others refused treatment, citing minor injuries.
Both the bus driver and crane operator were not injured in the accident.
They remained calm and silent while clean-up work was going on. - CNA/ms -
I think the lorry crane operator is solely at fault, which is why the police arrested the bangladeshi as reported on TV. The following are possible safety lapses from the lorry operator and company:
1) The boom of the crane must not protrude onto the path of vehicles at all times; because the lorry company, supervisor and crane operator have a duty of care to ensure safety at all times. This is under the MOM Occupation Safety and Health Act and I believe the crane operator and company will be investigated and probably prosecuted by MOM.
2) If the boom is necessary to be extended, then the supervisor in-charge got to place cones and signages to the front or back of the lorry to block the affected lane so that vehicles will avoid hitting the crane. And the boom must not protrude onto the adjacent lanes where vehicles are free to move at all times.
3) Did the lorry company station a person as a look-out for any safety lapses when the crane is in operation? Solely depending on the crane operator is not the solution to ensure safety to the public and motorists.
4) I think SBST and the victims can claim the lorry company's insurance company and it is mandatory for contractors to purchase insurance policies for every project they undertake.
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Overall, it was a freak accident by the crane driver which had caused a passenger to die just like that. Pathetic! 没天�!
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Originally posted by Dragonaxe:
Alamak! Not Chai Chee St! Its Bedok North St! Got 20m separation!
Man sad to heard someone died in this tragedy. These days seems riding buses is dangerous....
Ahh, if next time, you see Got one Supler Olympian and 1 B9TL Wright, take the B9TL Wright, 100% safe XD.
But Super Olympian tree-proof XD
IS not Chai Chee street, this bus ply at Bedok north Ave where by there is an entrance to the PIE and the traffic demand is relatively heavy
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The bus driver also goondu one lah. Bor keep a proper lookout... he driving a double deck he should know better and be extra careful.
In such a freak accident, who will be liable to compensate the victim?
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Originally posted by jgho83:
The bus driver also goondu one lah. Bor keep a proper lookout... he driving a double deck he should know better and be extra careful.
In such a freak accident, who will be liable to compensate the victim?
you tell me you are going to keep a proper lookout when you initially passed by the crane without incident?
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Originally posted by jgho83:
The bus driver also goondu one lah. Bor keep a proper lookout... he driving a double deck he should know better and be extra careful.
In such a freak accident, who will be liable to compensate the victim?
You're the goondu.How the heck you expect the driver to see through the upper deck to watch the crane boom and you expect the side-mirrors to cover those areas?
Its not a freak accident at all...its a case of negligence, and serious safety lapses on the part of the working crew manning the site.
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Chai Chee Street.. Bedok North Street.. Bedok North Ave..
It's just Bedok North Road!
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Originally posted by SBS 8529 R:
Overall, it was a freak accident by the crane driver which had caused a passenger to die just like that. Pathetic! 没天�!
MOM is likely to take tough action against the landscape company and the crane operator. The crane operator may probably be jailed since a life is lost. And since this landscape company is doing NParks maintenance contract (a govt project), it's likely to be blacklisted or even banned from bidding for govt tenders for a period of time. -
Originally posted by SBS9818A:
you tell me you are going to keep a proper lookout when you initially passed by the crane without incident?
The crane smashed all the way from the front to the back leh.... I believe the motion of the bus (moving forward) caused it.
If that driver is careful:
1. When he saw a crane vehicle as big-ass his bus, he should slow down.
2. When he heard the impact, he should stopped immediatedly. (If he had done so, maybe the crane wont hit all the way to the back)
3. When a big-ass bus and a big-ass crane goes side by side, u jolly well dont take the chance.
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Originally posted by jgho83:
The crane smashed all the way from the front to the back leh.... I believe the motion of the bus (moving forward) caused it.
If that driver is careful:
1. When he saw a crane vehicle as big-ass his bus, he should slow down.
2. When he heard the impact, he should stopped immediatedly. (If he had done so, maybe the crane wont hit all the way to the back)
3. When a big-ass bus and a big-ass crane goes side by side, u jolly well dont take the chance.
Make this straight..
The crane smashed into the bus only AFTER the front of the bus (ie. the driver) had passed the Lorry (or crane).You already mentioned that it is a double decker. u dont expect the bus to stop the moment the driver does an E brake right ?
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Originally posted by jgho83:
The crane smashed all the way from the front to the back leh.... I believe the motion of the bus (moving forward) caused it.
If that driver is careful:
1. When he saw a crane vehicle as big-ass his bus, he should slow down.
2. When he heard the impact, he should stopped immediatedly. (If he had done so, maybe the crane wont hit all the way to the back)
3. When a big-ass bus and a big-ass crane goes side by side, u jolly well dont take the chance.
1. i'm inclined to think the bus driver was doing his normal speed or even slower.
2. of course the motion of the bus caused it. well, even if he had applied the brakes immediately (which i feel he would have done so) the bus will take time to stop anyway! whether or not the length of the damage would have been shorter does not really matter.
3. you jolly well dont take the chance, so you expect poor bus driver to stop in the centre of the road and wait for the crane to move off? or expect him to do vehicle acrobatics and cut all the way to the extreme right lane and then back to the left lane to call at the bus stop. im sure the bus driver would have exercised due dilligence in ensuring that he had sufficient clearance to pass the lorry.
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Originally posted by Superbus:
Chai Chee Street.. Bedok North Street.. Bedok North Ave..
It's just Bedok North Road!
Agree with you, cuz the camera just take a small view on blk street name.. When I check on the street directory, the bus didnt ply on the chai chee, but bedok north rd instead
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I believe the commuter must have fallen asleep. The rest escaped with injuries and he had time to react (He was on the last few rows). He could have kept his head down and avoided the catastrophe. I pity him.
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Originally posted by sBs_boy:
Make this straight..
The crane smashed into the bus only AFTER the front of the bus (ie. the driver) had passed the Lorry (or crane).You already mentioned that it is a double decker. u dont expect the bus to stop the moment the driver does an E brake right ?
Yah i wan to get this straight too. There are many bus enthu here so chances are all will find fault with what i say.
But think.
The bus must be travelling at a fast speed just as it was about to pass the crane. If not, how do u explain the horrible carnage?
The bus driver, in that time, should have slow down and do a overtaking.
The key thing here is the speed, slow down. (which doesnt seem to be the case)
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The bus just entered Bedok North Rd aft turning left from Bedok Nth Ave 1, so how it's going to be speeding?
In any case, e govt is very strict over workplace safety. Tat's why e safety cordon directive is for.
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Originally posted by jgho83:
Yah i wan to get this straight too. There are many bus enthu here so chances are all will find fault with what i say.
But think.
The bus must be travelling at a fast speed just as it was about to pass the crane. If not, how do u explain the horrible carnage?
The bus driver, in that time, should have slow down and do a overtaking.
The key thing here is the speed, slow down. (which doesnt seem to be the case)
who on earth slows down to do an overtaking manouver??
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I believe the lorry was cutting trees.... work's over and then it pressed the wrong button and the crane smashes itself towards the bus... cutting from front to back....
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Originally posted by sbst275:
The bus just entered Bedok North Rd aft turning left from Bedok Nth Ave 1, so how it's going to be speeding?
In any case, e govt is very strict over workplace safety. Tat's why e safety cordon directive is for.
So u are saying the bus is travelling at a slow speed, and slow speed causes such a horrible outcome? Thats quite an analysis.