Information on Bus Downroutes
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Hi all,
I am compiling a list of bus services with perm downroutes. However, there seems to be not much information about this. The only ones are early trips in sgwiki or deriving it from e-timetables.
So, anybody knows whether the following services (basically those without e-timetable) have any downroutes or not (exclude early morning trips)?
6, 8, 9, 16, 17, 19, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 28, 30, 31, 38, 55, 60, 66, 69, 70, 73, 74, 81, 82, 83, 87, 88, 89, 92, 95, 98, 99, 100, 101, 105, 107, 111, 112, 124, 131, 133, 135, 139, 145, 154, 157, 159, 165, 168, 195 and 197. Or even SMRTB services.
If they have, please provide details such as:
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Origin of the downroute
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Heading towards to?
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Estimated timings, if you know
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Before downroute trip, where do they come from? (depot, terminal, crossover or short-working trip)
Sorry if this topic may somehow duplicate the timetable thread. So, please post only the details of such downroutes as stated above.
Your help is much appreciated. Thank you :)
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Originally posted by SMB136C:
Hi all,
I am compiling a list of bus services with perm downroutes. However, there seems to be not much information about this. The only ones are early trips in sgwiki or deriving it from e-timetables.
So, anybody knows whether the following services (basically those without e-timetable) have any downroutes or not?
6, 8, 9, 16, 17, 19, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 28, 30, 31, 38, 55, 56, 60, 66, 69, 70, 73, 74, 78, 81, 82, 83, 87, 88, 89, 92, 93, 95, 96, 98, 99, 100, 101, 105, 107, 111, 112, 124, 131, 133, 135, 139, 145, 154, 157, 159, 165, 168, 195 and 197.
If they have, please provide details such as:
- Origin of the downroute
- Heading towards to?
- Estimated timings if possible, or (xxxx hrs – xxxx hrs)
- Before downroute trip, where do they come from? (depot, terminal, crossover or short-working trip)
Sorry if this topic may somehow duplicate the timetable thread. So, please post only the details of such downroutes as stated above.
Your help is much appreciated. Thank you :)
it's possible to check for early downroutes without e-timetable...
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What I know now are:
Service 70
Paya Lebar Stn - Shenton Way
saw this before the CCL opens, in March, at ard 0830. Wonder do they still do downroute there now?Service 74
Ngee Ann Poly - Hougang Ctrl Int (Weekdays afternoon)
Ang Mo Kio Stn - Hougang Ctrl Int (Weekdays PM peak) -
I only saw one of 99 DDs off service, chiong all the way at Boon Lay Way (near Chinese Garden Station to Lake Side) at around 7am. Saw SBS9196K, SBS9227E etc doing that earlier on......
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Originally posted by TIB657M:
I only saw one of 99 DDs off service, chiong all the way at Boon Lay Way (near Chinese Garden Station to Lake Side) at around 7am. Saw SBS9196K, SBS9227E etc doing that earlier on......
starts from river valley high sch...
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Originally posted by ^tamago^:
it's possible to check for early downroutes without e-timetable...
Through first bus timings on busstop information panel??
But what i'm more interested in are those during other time of the day.
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What does down route means? as in from the depot all the way to the stated place to start?
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Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
What does down route means? as in from the depot all the way to the stated place to start?
For SMRTB, it is from Interchange to the stated place to start. SMB122S had done that before since the timing was extremely late and the BC needed to do downroute in order to meet the schedule.And I also saw TIB837K, TIB482A downroute from Boon Lay Int to JE Ave 1 via Boon Lay Way and Jurong East St 31.
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Originally posted by SMB136C:
Through first bus timings on busstop information panel??
But what i'm more interested in are those during other time of the day.
yes. other times of the day are rarer, and their timings change all the time.
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171 - Bukit Panjang Road (Blk 223) >>> Marina Centre Terminal
(Weekend Afternoons)
190 - Bukit Panjang Road (Blk 223) >>> Choa Chu Kang Interchange
(Daily - Roughly 0600-0700 hrs)
963 - Bukit Panjang Road (Blk 223) >>> Harbourfront Terminal
(Weekday Peak Hour - Roughly 0730 - 0930 hrs)
700/700A - Petir Road (After Dairy Farm Road) >>> Bukit Panjang Interchange
(Daily Roughly 600-700 hrs)
190 - Bukit Panjang Road (After Woodlands Road) >>> Marina Centre Terminal
(Not sure when)
960 - Bukit Panjang Road (After Woodlands Road) >>> Marina Centre Terminal
(Not sure when)
171 - Assumption English School >>> Marina Centre Terminal
(Weekday Afternoons)
I suspect 184 also has downroute.
From Clementi Ave 5 >>> Bukit Panjang Interchange on weekdays morning / afternoon. -
Originally posted by Junyang700:
171 - Bukit Panjang Road (Blk 223) >>> Marina Centre Terminal
(Weekend Afternoons)
190 - Bukit Panjang Road (Blk 223) >>> Choa Chu Kang Interchange
(Daily - Roughly 0600-0700 hrs)
963 - Bukit Panjang Road (Blk 223) >>> Harbourfront Terminal
(Weekday Peak Hour - Roughly 0730 - 0930 hrs)
700/700A - Petir Road (After Dairy Farm Road) >>> Bukit Panjang Interchange
(Daily Roughly 600-700 hrs)
190 - Bukit Panjang Road (After Woodlands Road) >>> Marina Centre Terminal
(Not sure when)
960 - Bukit Panjang Road (After Woodlands Road) >>> Marina Centre Terminal
(Not sure when)
171 - Assumption English School >>> Marina Centre Terminal
(Weekday Afternoons)
I suspect 184 also has downroute.
From Clementi Ave 5 >>> Bukit Panjang Interchange on weekdays morning / afternoon.i know of 2 960 S1 slots that do downroutes from Bt Panjang Rd Blk 604 bus stop in the morning, around 8+, namely S101 & S106. these 2 slots will do one trip from Woodlands to Marina Ctr, then off service back to Bt Panjang to do downroute back to Marina Ctr, and another trip back to Woodlands then go back depot.
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105 i know have
toa payoh lor 2 (Toa Payoh MRT Station) towards Serangoon
usually deployed from HGDEP
from about 6am onwards until the first bus from the stops before arrives
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Service 88 have 3 downroute areas. Apparently all of them come from BRBP. 1st area is Bishan Station towards Pasir Ris at 5+am, 2nd area is Ang Mo Kio Station towards Pasir Ris at 5+, Last area is Punggol Road towards Pasir Ris, at 5+.
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Originally posted by Rk 2010:
Apparently all of them come from BRBP
errr... obviously
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Originally posted by Rk 2010:
Service 88 have 3 downroute areas. Apparently all of them come from BRBP. 1st area is Bishan Station towards Pasir Ris at 5+am, 2nd area is Ang Mo Kio Station towards Pasir Ris at 5+, Last area is Punggol Road towards Pasir Ris, at 5+.
Bishan Stn has been moved forward to the Braddell Rd mosque liao.. -
Originally posted by SMB136C:
Hi all,
I am compiling a list of bus services with perm downroutes. However, there seems to be not much information about this. The only ones are early trips in sgwiki or deriving it from e-timetables.
So, anybody knows whether the following services (basically those without e-timetable) have any downroutes or not?
6, 8, 9, 16, 17, 19, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 28, 30, 31, 38, 55, 56, 60, 66, 69, 70, 73, 74, 78, 81, 82, 83, 87, 88, 89, 92, 93, 95, 96, 98, 99, 100, 101, 105, 107, 111, 112, 124, 131, 133, 135, 139, 145, 154, 157, 159, 165, 168, 195 and 197.
If they have, please provide details such as:
- Origin of the downroute
- Heading towards to?
- Estimated timings if possible, or (xxxx hrs – xxxx hrs)
- Before downroute trip, where do they come from? (depot, terminal, crossover or short-working trip)
Sorry if this topic may somehow duplicate the timetable thread. So, please post only the details of such downroutes as stated above.
Your help is much appreciated. Thank you :)
Of the list of services you have this is the best of my knowledge:
S9 Opp Blk 275A Loyang Ave to Bedok. Happens during PM Peak when Service 9A is in operation. That's because the bus will downroute from this pt after doing 9A. off service route Dr 1, Dr 2, Dr 3 and back to Loyang Ave.S16 has outside schedule downroutes from Stadium area after concerts and events in the area. Usually at night.
S17 has downroutes from opp bndep to Bedok Int. Normally its 17A buses.
S28 Bedok Stn to Toa Payoh. Done by 2 S shifts from each depot. Happens 1645-1735. Helps out in the loads at Tai Seng. All 4 buses come from their respective depot before doing the downroute.
S31 Tanah Merah Stn to Tampines. Done by 3/4 E shifts from bndep. Happens from midday till PM Peak. Serves as a school bus for ITE College East students.
S56 S78 S93 does NOT have any downroutes other than the early morning first bus downroutes.
S95 has a few of downroutes - BNV to kent ridge, Staff ctr to holland, LT27 to holland. From BNV its am peak, the other 2 pm peak.
S96 has 1 downroute place during pm peak. 1st stop Kent Ridge Cres to clementi.
S100 has some from Aljunied MRT to Serangoon during pm peak, normally done after 100A
S105 has a downroute from Toh Guan to Jurong East during am peak. This was 2005 data. Dunno if its still in effect.
S131 has downroutes from Little India to St Mikes during pm peak (off service from St mikes), and from United Sq to Bt Merah (off service from shenton way after doing 131A)
S154 has downroutes from Circuit Rd (ITE Macpherson) in the early morning till AM Peak, and just before the start from PM Peak. Mostly is from depot. only 1 occurance is from Eunos Int during pm peak. Both S154/S154A has a downroute from Clementi Ave 6 to Eunos/NP. For S154, its done after doing 154A earlier. the sole 154A downroute comes off service from Boon Lay after doing S157.
S195/A has downroutes from C'wealth Dr and from Tiong Bahru (towards c'wealth). Saw it during AM Peak..
Hope some of the material hopes..
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
963 - Bukit Panjang Road (Blk 223) >>> Harbourfront Terminal
(Weekday Peak Hour - Roughly 0730 - 0930 hrs)
190 - Bukit Panjang Road (After Woodlands Road) >>> Marina Centre Terminal
(Not sure when)
TIB632J is the perm bus for downroute. 8.50+am starts journey.You mean New Bridge Terminal?
961/190 bus starts its downroute journey from Bukit Panjang at 8.50am. -
sv154
all 4 154/154A buses after their 154A trip, the 157 super that crosses 154A, evening peak 1 bus starts from clementi ave 6 to eunos, few buses in the morning peak and 1 bus in the evening peak from circuit rd ite macpherson to boon lay. -
Originally posted by TIB657M:
For SMRTB, it is from Interchange to the stated place to start. SMB122S had done that before since the timing was extremely late and the BC needed to do downroute in order to meet the schedule.And I also saw TIB837K, TIB482A downroute from Boon Lay Int to JE Ave 1 via Boon Lay Way and Jurong East St 31.
Speaking of which, i saw 730J, 654X,and 667J did downroute before though, 730J downroute to upp bukit timah though. -
Originally posted by TIB657M:
TIB632J is the perm bus for downroute. 8.50+am starts journey.You mean New Bridge Terminal?
961/190 bus starts its downroute journey from Bukit Panjang at 8.50am.along with the 176/190. i discovered them both (:
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Originally posted by Rk 2010:
Service 88 have 3 downroute areas. Apparently all of them come from BRBP. 1st area is Bishan Station towards Pasir Ris at 5+am, 2nd area is Ang Mo Kio Station towards Pasir Ris at 5+, Last area is Punggol Road towards Pasir Ris, at 5+.
these are early morning downroutes before the first bus arrives. if you ocunt those u should just refer to wiki but i think its alittle out of date some of the info.
154 downroutes from Cwealth Ave West first stop toward Boon Lay in the morning (1 bus) and from Clementi Ave 6 (1 bus)
early morning downroutes are there to cater to ridership at parts of the route at an earlier time. example, sv10 departs kent ridge at 0600, if there are no downroutes, the passengers have to wait till around 0715 before they board along east coast and upp east coast rd to tampines? what about those headed to work and school.
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Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:
What does down route means? as in from the depot all the way to the stated place to start?
Downroute basically means a particular bus service starting its trip halfway at a stated bus stop, instead of starting from terminal. They not only come from depot or interchange, but also after doing short-working trip. There are mainly a few types of downroutes. They include:
Early morning (Scheduled)
Purpose: Because of first bus timings, as explained by SBS7485PPeak hours or any other time (Scheduled)
Purpose: Since not the entire route has the same passenger demand, downroute bus will come in at section where there is higher demand. So as to spread out loadings.Buses that are late
Purpose: In order to catch up for lost time. Instructions will be given by OCC. -
Originally posted by SBS7485P:
these are early morning downroutes before the first bus arrives. if you ocunt those u should just refer to wiki but i think its alittle out of date some of the info.
As posted earlier, early AM downroute can be found in sgwiki, e-timetable if they have, or even determine from first bus timings on bus stop panel. Yes, some data may be outdated in sgwiki. Anybody spotted any error are welcome to post here too.
For me, what i'm looking for are those scheduled trips that starts other time, as there's not much info available. More importantly, i need to know the starting point and an appx period (i.e. AM or PM) so that I can outsource any other details.
Looking at the response here, it seems like not many people knows too.
