SMRT Trials Mercedes Benz Citaro (O530)
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Originally posted by TIB930Z:
one thing i worry is the maintenance on the 0530
Why?
They use the same engine and transmission as the OC 500 LE, and the diagnostics tools used by the mechanics is the same. The ZF axles are readily available as they are used on many different buses (not limited to Mercs). The only issue is the bodywork, but if you buy enough of one thing, the price will be right.Regards,
Dave
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Originally posted by Merczrox:
I seriously really feel like moving over to the SMRT area soon.Their buses are definitely getting more 'hotter'.I feel so jealous of those who live in the SMRT area.Haha.Can get to take very cool buses like this Citaros soon.Its really very boring living in the SBST area nw.
Maybe the only thing the ppl living in the SBST area can look forward to is the Wright B9s.
wright?the new batch of B9's are wright bodied?
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Originally posted by SBS7484P:
wright?the new batch of B9's are wright bodied?
Yes. Expected to be Wright Gemini II bodywork, a facelifted version of the original based on the Wright Streetcar -
ohh.. that will be interesting.
something good after tons of gemilangs.
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Originally posted by SBS7484P:
ohh.. that will be interesting.
something good after tons of gemilangs.
dun think Gemilang has done any DD bodyframe ever yet -
they can try...
and then i'll wait to see it fail. :P
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Originally posted by Merczrox:
Haha nvm lah...The Citaro rims alr look very nice alr.
And dont mind explaining what's a Hubcap?This type of Hubcap:
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Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
How does the side EDS look like and the backside of the bus?
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Originally posted by Raraken:
This type of Hubcap:
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Something like, a rim cover I suppose?
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smrt should have bought yutong instead.
i love 135E. (:
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Originally posted by .SBS9888Y.:
smrt should have bought yutong instead.
i love 135E. (:
Yutong would be a good bus if it has more seats if bus is longer
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Originally posted by TIB1224Y:
Re-post:
Appreciate all the tip-offs from bus enthusiasts about the bus, today I passed by and went to check it out. It can be confirmed that its a full low floor Mercedes Benz Citaro (model O530). Diesel model. OM457hLA side-mounted with Adblue exhaust treatment Euro 5 emissions. 29 fixed seats including three 'granny' seats, one wheelchair bay with foldable 'granny' seat size. Entrance and exit doors are normal leaf doors, no sliding nor plug doors. Petrol and Adblue tanks are above the front axle compartment. Front suspension is Independent Front Suspension (IFS), rear is drop-center axle. Axles made by ZF.
Full low floor means no step from entrance to the rear along the corridor, but there is a big step from the corridor to access seats after the exit.
In Europe this model is also known as the 'facelifted Citaro' to differentiate it from first generation design of Citaros.
Hope these technical information will solve the questions many folks are asking here. Thanks.
the independant front suspension is a feature of Ctiaro. i guess SLs will have anice drive and those sitting inf ront will enjoy a smooth ride. the facelifted Ctiaro or (offically we're gonna call it gen 2) was introduced in Oct 2005. it is only in 2006 when the bus was showcased that bus operators started to buy the Citaro.
my estimates put the number of Citaros worldwide at around 30000. Incldues gen 1 and gen 2 in paris, Britian, Pasirs, germany, Bucahrest, and many middle eastern coutnries.
In Asia Ctiaros are in japan and there was once a fuel cell Citaro in beijing and some in Perth or was it Sydeney. Singapore is the first South East Asia country to get the Citaro. the Citaro will be a key symbol of the buses here. and kudo to SMRTbuses for brining the European standard to Singapore. -
Originally posted by SMB66X:
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Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:
Why?
They use the same engine and transmission as the OC 500 LE, and the diagnostics tools used by the mechanics is the same. The ZF axles are readily available as they are used on many different buses (not limited to Mercs). The only issue is the bodywork, but if you buy enough of one thing, the price will be right.Regards,
Dave
The After production Service for Citaro provided by Mercdes benz is top notch. It is after all their top producet. They will pay attention to any issues with the Citaro here i expect.
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hi all
Yes. I have always been a fan of the Citaro. having read about them in Buses magazine lent to me by my freinds. loads of praise for the buses in Europe based on what i read from the magazine.
The Citaro is a high quality product. Mercdes benz made sure it is.
Using the Buses magazine and other soruces, we have a "pre-evalaution" of the bus.the bus front
In 2005 Oct, Mercedes benz decided to reddesign the Citaro. The front was made more friendly. The recess at the front would have hosued a radiator, but of crouse the Citaro needs no front radiator. As such a blank is left there. the shape closely resembles the fronts of the Integro and Turismo or treavego. This is for product identity
Dash
We entre the front door. the semi ciruclar shaped area of the front area will wow you. the drivers dash looks like its form a car. many compartments are avilible for the Sl to hosue his things. From bottles to umbrellas etc. The fridge cooler is a n option for the Ctiaro dash area. SLs can use it to place bottled water and keep them chilled.
The dash as Dave descirbed is soemthing altogether. It will not resmeble the OC500le. The dahs has its own branding. its called the Mercedes VDV (not DVD hor)
IFS
You take seat at the front. Along with the SL, The independant front suspension will provide a smooth ride. Both driver and you will enjoy floating sensation as he turns the steering wheel. U notcie at the front there is no fire extinguisher. that has been hidden in a compartment. You will notice the emrcedes badge porminantly displayed as well. U enjoy the ride for 7 bus stops. if u had noot fallen asleep by then , lets move on.You step down into the gangway from the granny seat. All u see is nothing. no steps. all the way to the rear. you move forward intot he rear of the bus past the xit doors. (leaf doors?). u do not see any steps. u find a big step to climb onto the rear seat. U stare at the seat.
the City Star Eco? seat
the Ctiaro seat is integrally fitted. it is a Mercdes banrd. Called the City Star Eco. the black rubber areas on the grip extendes on the seat in an inverted trapezium shape. much like the shoulders of a man. This design seem to show the seat is trong and masculine as the inverted trapezium shape looks like shoulders flexing.
The seat indeed is strong and fixed firmely. the entire seat system reduces vibrations from the bus to you. You enjoy a real comfortable ride.
Citaro integral trademark - the roofline
You stare at the roof. a nice Wrightbus like curve but not so extreme. Strip Lighting, the comptemporary design to hosue lights of the day is sued. The lights cruve seamlessly to join the roofline and the side air-con panels. the grey ceiling and white lighting calms u down.
---No hopper window---
--- no Plug sliding train like doors ---*(you would have marvelled at this one)
-- no dieas howow the rear looks like yet. esp the last seat.
U relaise the bus emits low emmissions. with EURO 5 complaiance. the Bluetec additive is added along with the diesel fuel and mixed. The Blutetec used here is BlueTec 5, same as OC500LE.
you stay on the bus and enjoys the ride
ZYX
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Questions of our Citaro
any hopper windows?
What about side EDS. at the top where a hopper window wd be?
how does the rear seats look like. ?
are triabgular grips used for standees?
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Originally posted by TIB1049L:
Yes. Expected to be Wright Gemini II bodywork, a facelifted version of the original based on the Wright Streetcar
Wrightbus bodyworks and interior designs incoprate curves everywhere. comptemporary feel to the designs. -
Originally posted by sbst275:
SMRT still goes for MB Germany
While Hong Kong & SBS goes either for Sweden or UK
and that SMRTBuses shd keep at it. topping it off with the Citaro is a god move. i mean good move. -
most likely the last row has 4 seats, for the engine is mounted at the side. most likely mounted just beside the radiator.
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ooh side vertically placed style?.... no wonder can full zero step to rear...
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Originally posted by .SBS9888Y.:
smrt should have bought yutong instead.
i love 135E. (:
Maybe that yutong might continue after citaro? But I do really wish that it does not end up like SBS8031J.
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Originally posted by Raraken:
This type of Hubcap:
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First picture showing a MB using LAWO EDS and Second picture showing a MOBITEC EDS?
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The engine is mounted to the left of the vehicle (near-side). The radiator is on the other side (off-side).
MAN (Lion City full low floor models) and Volvo (7700 etc) do such placements as well. For double decks, the Neoplan Centroliner uses this placement.
Other than a side placement, an engine can be mounted transversely as well to accommodate a full low floor setting. This was done on the year 2000 Isuzu Erga (KL-LV834系 フルノンステップ�ス/type B) full non-step bus model (presently discontinued) and is the only few Japanese buses that incorporate this technology. The others include the year 1996 UA Non-step bus series (later the Nissan Spacerunner) F type (FHI bodywork) and the N type (Nishi-nippon Shatai bodywork) KC/KL-UA272/460, CNG and diesel versions.
To differentiate a low floor bus and a low-entry bus, full low floor is used here to show that the bus is step-less along the entire corridor. A Citaro is a full low floor, a OC is a low entry.
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Originally posted by .SBS9888Y.:
smrt should have bought yutong instead.
i love 135E. (:
No way man!!!!Its a good thing SMRT didnt buy the yutong.
