SMRT Trials Mercedes Benz Citaro (O530)
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Originally posted by off_service:
Guys, kindly get back to topic and don't be scared. If you are scared, don't post.
call me and pei wo hor.
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Originally posted by sinicker:
so scary can.
i'll stay home for the next few weeks.
in that case u can just fail this sem liao.. -
wish I checked earlier... didn't get to see it...
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Originally posted by Lameomaster:
wish I checked earlier… didn’t get to see it…
ok.
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Originally posted by Lameomaster:
wish I checked earlier… didn’t get to see it…
Hahahaha poor thing....Too bad for u then.... -
Originally posted by service_238:
It cant be put on revenue service yet. Everything has to be modified to local specs first, then sent to the Inspection Centre for checks.. then depot mechanics test the bus.. do some test run bla bla... get the idea?Actually, yes, I did. On the way to depot means for retrofitting for revenue service, or modification at SMRT's workshop + testing. Not all of us are stupid, you know. Same thing with SMB1H before registration. Went to C&C, went depot to modify and retrofit, back to C&C, off to Sin Ming, back again to C&C, off to showcase first Euro V, back yet again etc.
And considering the Citaro was shipped from Germany as-is, yes, I did realise much more modification needed to be done, with respect to the locally-assembled/ASEAN-assembled buses.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
My interest in "SMRT gets new buses!!!" will only be generated with the purchase of DDs.If facilities are the headache, they still need to start somewhere right?
Ok, maybe, big maybe, they might be doing something about it, but if that's the case, I'm not aware yet.
Most, if not all interchanges and depot facilities belongs to the LTA or PTC (can someone confirm please?), just that the bus companies took control of them for daily operations. So things ended up much like snowballing effect.
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Originally posted by off_service:
Most, if not all interchanges and depot facilities belongs to the LTA or PTC (can someone confirm please?), just that the bus companies took control of them for daily operations. So things ended up much like snowballing effect.
whichever the case, its still disappointing that higher-capacity buses are still not appearing on the cards.small wonder the falling proportion of people taking public transport.
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Originally posted by SBS2601D:
Dunno what's so exciting about these 66 buses...in the end, its just another 66 SINGLE-decks. SMRT is seriously not getting around to getting higher capacity stuff are they? Citing facility limits and LTA's stand on bendies are not valid excuses.
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Originally posted by Raraken:
Actually, yes, I did. On the way to depot means for retrofitting for revenue service, or modification at SMRT's workshop + testing. Not all of us are stupid, you know. Same thing with SMB1H before registration. Went to C&C, went depot to modify and retrofit, back to C&C, off to Sin Ming, back again to C&C, off to showcase first Euro V, back yet again etc.
And considering the Citaro was shipped from Germany as-is, yes, I did realise much more modification needed to be done, with respect to the locally-assembled/ASEAN-assembled buses.
The Citaro was built similair to the Biritsh ones. Shd be no porblem in case of any interior problems. -
Originally posted by SBS2601D:
whichever the case, its still disappointing that higher-capacity buses are still not appearing on the cards.small wonder the falling proportion of people taking public transport.
High floor bsues - 81 standing and seatingCitaro / KUB - 87 or 88 standing or seating.
i dun see how the WAB 12m are carrying lesser people.
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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
High floor bsues - 81 standing and seatingCitaro / KUB - 87 or 88 standing or seating.
i dun see how the WAB 12m are carrying lesser people.
By right yes WSDs can take equal no of pplBut in reality nope, considering the LE issue (steps) and ppl carrying bags
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just asking,this bus uses a voith gearbox and also has no plug doors
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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
European buses excite me,. especially if they have won many awards in Europe.Took the Citaro in Austro-Swiss, Benelux and Germany. They are generally very very smooth. I believe many Singaporeans would like to take the Citaro over some other jerky new buses.
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jus rmbered reading somewhr in this forum... tat citarios were prone to fires...is this true?
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Originally posted by SBS7382C:
jus rmbered reading somewhr in this forum... tat citarios were prone to fires...is this true?
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G'day all,
Regarding the Citaros, they're only built in Europe, and because they are an integral bus, they are supplied complete and ready to go by EvoBus. No third party bodybuilders are involved.
There is no '2009 Citaro' as such - just the original Citaro released in 1997 and the facelifted Citaro released in 2006. The Citaro is a highly customisable platform and there are heaps of options for the operator. There are several engines (6.4-litre SCR diesel, 7.2-litre SCR diesel, 12-litre SCR diesel, 12-litre CNG) and gearboxes (ZF Ecomat, ZF Ecolife, Voith, Mercedes-Benz GO 190) available. Seating layout and overall capacity are dictated by the operator and by legal requirements of the operator's country.
The fires on the London Citaros were caused by substandard welding on the oil supply line to the turbocharger. This problem affected Citaros with 6.4-litre engines and also OC 500 LEs with CNG engines (which were the subject of a massive country-wide recall over here). A few Perth and Sydney CNG Mercs have caught fire and in one case, completely destroyed the bus.
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Originally posted by Powered_By_CNG:
G'day all,
Regarding the Citaros, they're only built in Europe, and because they are an integral bus, they are supplied complete and ready to go by EvoBus. No third party bodybuilders are involved.
There is no '2009 Citaro' as such - just the original Citaro released in 1997 and the facelifted Citaro released in 2006. The Citaro is a highly customisable platform and there are heaps of options for the operator. There are several engines (6.4-litre SCR diesel, 7.2-litre SCR diesel, 12-litre SCR diesel, 12-litre CNG) and gearboxes (ZF Ecomat, ZF Ecolife, Voith, Mercedes-Benz GO 190) available. Seating layout and overall capacity are dictated by the operator and by legal requirements of the operator's country.
The fires on the London Citaros were caused by substandard welding on the oil supply line to the turbocharger. This problem affected Citaros with 6.4-litre engines and also OC 500 LEs with CNG engines (which were the subject of a massive country-wide recall over here). A few Perth and Sydney CNG Mercs have caught fire and in one case, completely destroyed the bus.
Regards,
DaveHello there Dave,
Would like to confirm the model of the 7.2-liter diesel, as in model number.
Thanks.
Edit: Found the 7.2-liter as the model 926, is it the same one as you were talking about? So there are a total of three main engine models, the 906, 926 and 457?
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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
High floor bsues - 84 standing and seatingCitaro / KUB - 87 or 88 standing or seating.
i dun see how the WAB 12m are carrying lesser people.
not forgetting our champion 8031J with 91 pax.
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Originally posted by ZYX2005:
High floor bsues - 81 standing and seatingCitaro / KUB - 87 or 88 standing or seating.
i dun see how the WAB 12m are carrying lesser people.
double-decks on the cards please.
enough of single-decks already.
i don't give a hoot about the figures, especially when I'm pissed off at the luckluster service SMRT is still providing.
today's case in point, 2 171 OC500LEs came, 15 minutes apart at peak hour. of course there's no chance of boarding and 30 min was wasted waiting for the stupid buses.
so how? take 67 to newton and then take SBST buses which seem more reliable even though I keep complaining about 95.
and as it was raining, I attribute my soaking wet clothes to SMRT as I had to cross the road to transfer to another bus.
what should have been a 20 min ride at 5PM, became a 1 hr with dashes in the rain. simply wonderful, eh?
in m'sia, I have no idea if the bus even turns up. in s'pore, it is whether I get to board the bus or not.
at the end of the day, I still fail to get to the destination at an optimal time.
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Originally posted by Fryderyk HPH:
Took the Citaro in Austro-Swiss, Benelux and Germany. They are generally very very smooth. I believe many Singaporeans would like to take the Citaro over some other jerky new buses.
The new gearboxes, voith and zf alike, seem to incorporate the use of extensive engine-braking. I don't like it at all, it makes the braking rather rough. -
Originally posted by TIB1224Y:
Hello there Dave,
Would like to confirm the model of the 7.2-liter diesel, as in model number.
Thanks.
Edit: Found the 7.2-liter as the model 926, is it the same one as you were talking about? So there are a total of three main engine models, the 906, 926 and 457?
Here are the full range of engine options for the Citaro:
- OM 906 hLA (6.4-litre horizontal): 286hp/1120Nm
- OM 926 LA (7.2-litre vertical): 286hp/1120Nm (derated from 326hp)
- OM 457 hLA (12-litre horizontal): 299hp/1250Nm or 354hp/1600Nm
- OM 457 LA (12-litre vertical): 354hp/1850Nm
- M 447 hLAG (12-litre horizontal CNG): 252hp/1050Nm or 326hp/1250Nm
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Originally posted by AEW5001:
i'd rather they bought it.Chinese made products (be it buses) will be part of everyone's lives in e next 10 to 20 years
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Originally posted by SMB66X:
Scary!!!
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Initial Impressions of SMRT's new Citaro
http://thecoloursofmyworld.blogspot.com/2009/11/initial-impressions-of-smrts-new.html