[b]BBDEP, BB services[/b]
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Typo error.Originally posted by iveco:Since when did 69 come under HGDEP's responsibility? Do you mean 89?
I mean service 69, BNDEP. -
What was the reason for withdrawing this service? Anyone knows?Originally posted by iveco:I ever took 122 from Clementi Rd (Opp Blk 352) to River Valley Rd back in 1991. When it was shortened a year later, the stretch of C'wealth Ave West between Dover Ave and Ghim Moh was left with only 2 bus routes. -
Seems that Sv 122 runs into today's Sv 147 rt at Clementi - Chinatown stretch
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Should be up to Lavender MRT station. Service 147 used to ply Victoria St/North Bridge Rd and Lavender St before merged with former service 83.Originally posted by sbst275:Seems that Sv 122 runs into today's Sv 147 rt at Clementi - Chinatown stretch
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got extended both sides with the former terminus were closed.Originally posted by muziq bus:I do not know what to put on the heading but datz wat it is about.
With the recent termination of services from the Mk2, i realised that BBDEP have replaced these models wif Mk2/3 and even VO3x.
Talking about VO3x, does anybody noe watz da rego for da V03x which did a cameo on 285? It was a very rare sight but too bad....dunno da rego..happened 2 wks ago..[/b][/quote]
bbdep did not replace mk2 with VOs. only mk2s with mk4s
hgdep replaces mk2s with mk3s.
just look at 274 275's fleet. all mk4.
the 285 VO can be sighted every weekday morning and evening. 9217 and 9611. the one with the handphone ad is 9611.
[quote]Originally posted by muziq bus:
Also, can anybody tell me the history of service 61?
I knew it once plied Ulu Pandan to MacPherson....When did the changes happen?
some got transferred out or remain in bbdep/arbpOriginally posted by muziq bus:And wat happened to all the VO3x which once served Service 61 like SBS 9222T, 9223,9224,9225,9226,9227? I noe dat 9221X is now a perm on service 65...n i once saw 9222T on service 87.....wat happened to them...?
Anybody got the answers?....Please......?
9220 am 166
9221 ar 65
9222 hg 87
9223 hg 87
9224 bn 69
9225 bb 147
9226 bn 9
9227 hg 165
9228 hg 107
9229 bb 196
this is done by smrtb as their depot got not enough space.Originally posted by muziq bus:I noticed that the buses in BB do not return to their depot after they finish services at 0100hrs....is it a common practice for buses not to return to their depot? I noticed this at 0245hrs in service NR8.. anybody care to explain?.....please...
smrtb has 2 interchange bus parks
the other one is yishun
sbst has 5
tampines
bedok
hougang
jurong east
boon lay
pasir ris does not do overnight parking.Originally posted by ^tamago^:take note, the buses parked in Bt Batok Int belongs to SMRT Buses. and SMRTB does not have a depot in Bt Batok; only SBST has.
the overnight parking in Bt Batok is a long-known fact. Bt Batok Int is majority controlled by SMRTB Kranji Depot. other places where overnight parking at interchanges are:
- Bedok (SBST BNDEP)
- Tampines (SBST BNDEP)
- Pasir Ris (SBST BNDEP)
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9214S: BB 61 -> BB 147Originally posted by tranquilice:9221X: 65 (ARBP)
9222T: 87 (HGDEP)
9223R: 87 (HGDEP)
9224M: 69 (BNDEP)
9225K: 147 (BBDEP)
9226H: 9 (BNDEP)
9227E: 165 (BBDEP)
9215P: HG 61 -> AM 70 -> BN 10
9216L: BB 61 -> BB 147
9217J: BB 61 -> BB 147 -> BB 165
9221X: HG 61 -> AM 76 -> AR 65
9222T: HG 61 -> HG 87
9223R: HG 61 -> HG 87
9224M: HG 61 -> HG 51 -> BN 69
9225K: BB 147
9226H: HG 61/147? -> HG 85 -> HG 9 -> BN 9
9227E: BB 147 -> BB 165
9588M: BB 61 -> BB 166 -> AR 65
9589K: BB 61 -> BB 166 -> BB 74
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Svc 9 was still under HGDEP when SBST took over SKG region? I thought it was swapped for Svc 32 or 197 long before that took place.Originally posted by sbs&tibs:9226H: HG 61/147? -> HG 85 -> HG 9 -> BN 9 -
Regarding the deployment of certain models of buses on routes with special requirements (i.e No DAFs on 77 and 173 etc.) are there any other routes with such special deployments? (not including the known height restriction routes)
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YesOriginally posted by supremebull:Regarding the deployment of certain models of buses on routes with special requirements (i.e No DAFs on 77 and 173 etc.) are there any other routes with such special deployments? (not including the known height restriction routes)
Sv 96, 151 at NUS... No DD -
Also, can someone enlighten me as to whether 106 was majority AMDEP or BBDEP during SBS era? What happened to the LO3Xes on 106 after the Habit buses took over their duties?
A side note, 106 had a Volgren Lance cameo in the early days of the Tibs takeover. An extremely rare sight in Clementi, even harder to spot than a SBS Scania. -
Correct. Service 9 was under HGDEP back then. Transferred to BNDEP with the deployments of DDs on the service, in 2003 if I'm not wrong.Originally posted by iveco:Svc 9 was still under HGDEP when SBST took over SKG region? I thought it was swapped for Svc 32 or 197 long before that took place. -
Service 95?Originally posted by sbst275:Yes
Sv 96, 151 at NUS... No DD -
It also had DAF cameos at the same time back then.Originally posted by iveco:A side note, 106 had a Volgren Lance cameo in the early days of the Tibs takeover. An extremely rare sight in Clementi, even harder to spot than a SBS Scania.
There is a Merc O405 Volgren passing thru Clementi in the present days. -
Which service? CLE has had no AMKM-controlled SMRT route ever since 106 stopped going to S'goon.Originally posted by tranquilice:There is a Volgren Lance passing thru Clementi in the present days. -
My mistake.Originally posted by iveco:Which service? CLE has had no AMKM-controlled SMRT route ever since 106 stopped going to S'goon. Merc O405 Volgren. -
I mean not counting height restriction...Originally posted by tranquilice:Service 95?
Sv 96, 151 cannot have dd because of the slope -
Oops.. Forgot all abt the MRT rationalisation back then..Originally posted by tranquilice:Should be up to Lavender MRT station. Service 147 used to ply Victoria St/North Bridge Rd and Lavender St before merged with former service 83.
Also service 2 (Buona Vista - Lavender).
That time remembered my dad complained like crazy, overnight so many rt changes -
My views.Originally posted by supremebull:Regarding the deployment of certain models of buses on routes with special requirements (i.e No DAFs on 77 and 173 etc.) are there any other routes with such special deployments? (not including the known height restriction routes)
Generally, the deployment of the type of buses of certain routes depends on:
1. the commuter profile
2. the popularity of the route (actually most accurately the revenue that can be generated)
3. the bus type's maintenance costs
4. weekday/weekend
1. For a route like 36, Mk IV's are the permers but not Mk III's. This is because it is the only bus link between city and airport, and hence the better buses.
2. Popular express buses tend to get better buses (Merc on 502 & Mk 4's on 51
as the higher revenue can justify using better buses being deployed. (Don't count cameos).
3. One example of this is why 2888T is deployed on 518. Being the only express service in BNDEP, it is the best place to generate more revenue as we noe, the L94UB's maintenance cost is higher than most buses owned by SBST.
4. For some less popular or "student" routes, buses on weekends tend to be better than tat on weekdays, with more air-cons and better buses.
For special requirements (other than height restrictions), i can think of:
- 42 and 92 using Dennis Darts
- 61, 106, 970 for slope at Holland Ave (this one not too serious so cameos may still appear on 61 & 106)
- 167 not using Bendies as the roundabout at Sembawang Park is not Bendy-friendly (there was a trial and the bus can use the roundabout but they decided not to do it)
- 858 for using MB O.405's as they need powerful and low-maintenance buses to take the stress of plying the whole of TPE -
There are Mercs on Svc 502 and these buses are seen as better ones. However, some folks think the Mercs on Svc 24 are not good enough. Aren't all SBST Mercs the same?Originally posted by ^tamago^:2. Popular express buses tend to get better buses (Merc on 502 & Mk 4's on 51 as the higher revenue can justify using better buses being deployed. (Don't count cameos).
3. One example of this is why 2888T is deployed on 518. Being the only express service in BNDEP, it is the best place to generate more revenue as we noe, the L94UB's maintenance cost is higher than most buses owned by SBST.
I have no objection with 2888 serving 518. Your point about it being higher maintenance and needing to serve a high-revenue route is logical. If that is the case, shouldn't 1688 be moved over to BBDEP and deployed permernantly on 506? -
Service 95 also ply Kent Ridge Cres.Originally posted by sbst275:I mean not counting height restriction...
Sv 96, 151 cannot have dd because of the slope
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Services 853, 961 and 985 do not use bendies due to the exit at Lor 1 Geylang terminal.Originally posted by ^tamago^:- 167 not using Bendies as the roundabout at Sembawang Park is not Bendy-friendly (there was a trial and the bus can use the roundabout but they decided not to do it) -
Within SLBP, O.405 are the better buses. Therefore they are usually on town or high load factor svcs like 105, 154, 174, 242, 243 & 502. Also, there is the concensus within SBST that O.405's are jus as suitable as the DD's in load handling (or something along those lines), probably cos of its powerful engine. 183 is an exception now, of cos, until it gets extended to science pk 2 in due time.Originally posted by iveco:There are Mercs on Svc 502 and these buses are seen as better ones. However, some folks think the Mercs on Svc 24 are not good enough. Aren't all SBST Mercs the same?
I have no objection with 2888 serving 518. Your point about it being higher maintenance and needing to serve a high-revenue route is logical. If that is the case, shouldn't 1688 be moved over to BBDEP and deployed permernantly on 506?
And all O.405's are the same. Probably cos AMDEP has more O.405's, thus a higher number of them is expected to have some problems even though proportionately it may be the same as SLBP. Or maybe cos they dislike the fact that O.405 WA PS are the majority O.405's running on 24, if they dun like those PS Mercs.
506 is not a high-revenue service, definitely not as high as 518. if u're thinking of it shifting, maybe SLBP 502 is a better choice here. now u noe why 506 buses are not as good as 502 or 518 (Mk III's vs Mk IV's).
as for 1688K being on not-so-high-revenue svc like 163, tis is cos Volvo parts are easier to get than Scania parts (2888T) thus it does not cost as much to maintain (lower than L94UB but higher than B10M). and i believe 1688K being on 163 is jus a temporary measure. there is talk on the market that 163 will be handled out by hgdep to bram tis yr, so it might move to other hgdep svcs. -
Express 506's Revenue can be compared with 518's during Peak Periods.
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i think if you want to consider revenue generated per service you should look at the wider picture and not only peak periods. 506 may be packed during peak periods during weekdays like 518, but during weekends 518 may be packed all day long.Originally posted by SBS9889U:Express 506's Revenue can be compared with 518's during Peak Periods. -
I have seen Striders on 506 some time back. Don't tell me they have all been replaced?Originally posted by ^tamago^:506 is not a high-revenue service, definitely not as high as 518. if u're thinking of it shifting, maybe SLBP 502 is a better choice here. now u noe why 506 buses are not as good as 502 or 518 (Mk III's vs Mk IV's).
as for 1688K being on not-so-high-revenue svc like 163, tis is cos Volvo parts are easier to get than Scania parts (2888T) thus it does not cost as much to maintain (lower than L94UB but higher than B10M). and i believe 1688K being on 163 is jus a temporary measure. there is talk on the market that 163 will be handled out by hgdep to bram tis yr, so it might move to other hgdep svcs.