da week of 11/8/2003
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oh ya, i was about to ask u about your transfer.. much traveling after the move huh? or is it better?Originally posted by the Bear:can't do that... although now, i'm pretty free, i'm waiting for inputs so i can finish up what i have to do for the next 2 weeks coz i'm going to be transferred... -
morning!!Originally posted by sillyme:good morning sthu, xzz, inzaghi, bear
me doing some stuff for the marketing manager..
gimme some time.... -
good morning sthu, xzz, inzaghi, bear, sillyyou
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Somewhere beyond the sea
somewhere waiting for me
my lover stands on golden sands
and watches the ships that go sailin
Somewhere beyond the sea
she's there watching for me
If I could fly like birds on high
then straight to her arms
I'd go sailing
It's far beyond the stars
it's near beyond the moon
I know beyond a doubt
my heart will lead me there soon
We'll meet beyond the shore
we'll kiss just as before
Happy we'll be beyond the sea
and never again I'll go sailing
I know beyond a doubt
my heart will lead me there soon
We'll meet (I know we'll meet ) beyond the shore
We'll kiss just as before
Happy we'll be beyond the sea
and never again I'll go sailing
no more sailing
so long sailing
bye bye sailing ... -
ask u guys something...
In a husband-wife situation, let's say the couple goes to work in a direct sales company..the wife came out of it after 1 month to look for a more stable job..the husband himself, because to hit the sales quota, used his own money to invest in the products. as a wife, she supported her husband's decision. after two to three months, the husband doesnt seem to get his pay yet, and his savings are nearly used up. his wife told him to judge the situation and see if he wants to quit (the wife indicated to him that she wants him to quit as it is pretty stupid to continue,and his savings are finishing, but the decision was ultimately up to him). however, the husband went on to work for another 2 months, thus using up all his savings. finally, he realised that he was going nowhere and he left the company..then he found another job earning a thousand plus per month, he doesnt have any savings left, and he hasn't got his first pay, then he approached his wife for allowance. the wife is very angry at him. she feels that as a husband, he should think of their future properly and not use up all the savings. she felt that she shouldnt support her husband financially and let him learn the hard way.
At work, the husband now takes a bit of money from the father and the wife gives him a bit of money as well, but not a lot as she is still angry at him. he eats only rice and 1 veg for lunch, curry puf for dinner..his colleagues asked him why he eat so little, he said no money, then his colleagues asked him doesnt the wife care, he said NO.
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i love this song!Originally posted by M:Somewhere beyond the sea -
what a mess...
he feels she doesn't care...
sometimes tough love is like that.. personally, i could never do that to my spouse.. i'll love her and spoil her as much as i can.. and never think a bad thought about her
i guess it's the situation and the people involved... sometimes i wonder if i'm doing the right thing sharing my feelings and thoughts as they are rarely what the average person would do or think...
for this situation, he's been through a lot of stress... and depleted their savings while at it... wait a minute.. his or their savings? if it is their savings, whatever happened to thinking about themselves as a team and a couple?
she, i feel, is not helping by adding to the stress.. they're a team and a couple... for better or poorer... where does she come off treating him like "she should not support him"? would she expect him to "support her" when she's down and out?
there seems to be something seriously wrong with the situation... i would suggest they read their marriage vows and ponder upon them...Originally posted by shutthehellup:ask u guys something...
In a husband-wife situation, let's say the couple goes to work in a direct sales company..the wife came out of it after 1 month to look for a more stable job..the husband himself, because to hit the sales quota, used his own money to invest in the products. as a wife, she supported her husband's decision. after two to three months, the husband doesnt seem to get his pay yet, and his savings are nearly used up. his wife told him to judge the situation and see if he wants to quit (the wife indicated to him that she wants him to quit as it is pretty stupid to continue,and his savings are finishing, but the decision was ultimately up to him). however, the husband went on to work for another 2 months, thus using up all his savings. finally, he realised that he was going nowhere and he left the company..then he found another job earning a thousand plus per month, he doesnt have any savings left, and he hasn't got his first pay, then he approached his wife for allowance. the wife is very angry at him. she feels that as a husband, he should think of their future properly and not use up all the savings. she felt that she shouldnt support her husband financially and let him learn the hard way.
At work, the husband now takes a bit of money from the father and the wife gives him a bit of money as well, but not a lot as she is still angry at him. he eats only rice and 1 veg for lunch, curry puf for dinner..his colleagues asked him why he eat so little, he said no money, then his colleagues asked him doesnt the wife care, he said NO.
Guys, what do u think of this situation? -
nvm.....
i post in aunt agony. -
it's about the same.. but i'll never even get a chance to lunch with her
Originally posted by sillyme:oh ya, i was about to ask u about your transfer.. much traveling after the move huh? or is it better? -
the wife has already warned the husband of the outcome and that the company is not a good one..but the husband didnt take e advice. and still continued the job. dun u think that he is Zhi Zuo Zhi SHou?Originally posted by the Bear:what a mess...
he feels she doesn't care...
sometimes tough love is like that.. personally, i could never do that to my spouse.. i'll love her and spoil her as much as i can.. and never think a bad thought about her
i guess it's the situation and the people involved... sometimes i wonder if i'm doing the right thing sharing my feelings and thoughts as they are rarely what the average person would do or think...
for this situation, he's been through a lot of stress... and depleted their savings while at it... wait a minute.. his or their savings? if it is their savings, whatever happened to thinking about themselves as a team and a couple?
she, i feel, is not helping by adding to the stress.. they're a team and a couple... for better or poorer... where does she come off treating him like "she should not support him"? would she expect him to "support her" when she's down and out?
there seems to be something seriously wrong with the situation... i would suggest they read their marriage vows and ponder upon them... -
yes... be angry with him, or sad with him, or anything...
as a man, the worst thing a loved one can be is to be indifferent and uncaring...
again, i'm not the norm...
love is never ever conditional... if i love her, come hell or high water, i'll love her... totally, damn the consequences...
here, it looks like he feels she has stopped loving him...Originally posted by shutthehellup:the wife has already warned the husband of the outcome and that the company is not a good one..but the husband didnt take e advice. and still continued the job. dun u think that he is Zhi Zuo Zhi SHou? -
well, the wife just felt that he is too pampered in the past (whatever he wants, his family will buy for him). if he goes on like that being spoon fed, he will never ever grow up..Originally posted by the Bear:yes... be angry with him, or sad with him, or anything...
as a man, the worst thing a loved one can be is to be indifferent and uncaring...
again, i'm not the norm...
love is never ever conditional... if i love her, come hell or high water, i'll love her... totally, damn the consequences...
here, it looks like he feels she has stopped loving him... -
provision of material things and provision of spiritual support and love are mutually exclusive...Originally posted by shutthehellup:well, the wife just felt that he is too pampered in the past (whatever he wants, his family will buy for him). if he goes on like that being spoon fed, he will never ever grow up..
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the wife still loves him a lot. she is in a dilemma too..but she wants to make sure the husband sees the point that he shouldnt take it so easy in life and expect people to pamper him all e way..Originally posted by the Bear:provision of material things and provision of spiritual support and love are mutually exclusive...
shouldnt u think a married man must be even more responsible?? -
busy day.. haven't given a serious thought.. but here's shot.Originally posted by shutthehellup:ask u guys something...
Guys, what do u think of this situation?
i guess, the husband might have made a "wrong" decision by risking another few months on the job.. should have considered the families interest before using up his savings..
it takes a lot to swallow his pride and ask money from his wife.. the husband should have learnt his lesson by now (hopefully).. there's no point in holding bitterness over the matter anymore.. the wife should show support again and let it rest.. -
^5Originally posted by sillyme:i love this song! time to dive.. -
there there... i'm sure ur desire is more than simple lunches..Originally posted by the Bear:it's about the same.. but i'll never even get a chance to lunch with her u'll find her in your life soon -
the wife gave him money, topped up his farecard, paid his phone bills in the initial stage...husband is a smoker..wife thought that husband would reduce amt of ciggies he takes, in the end after 1 day, he finished one whole small pack. and asked the wife to buy another one for him.. do u think he has learnt his lesson>??Originally posted by sillyme:busy day.. haven't given a serious thought.. but here's shot.
i guess, the husband might have made a "wrong" decision by risking another few months on the job.. should have considered the families interest before using up his savings..
it takes a lot to swallow his pride and ask money from his wife.. the husband should have learnt his lesson by now (hopefully).. there's no point in holding bitterness over the matter anymore.. the wife should show support again and let it rest.. -
has the wife had a good talk with the husband about financial burden the wife is facing yet?Originally posted by shutthehellup:the wife gave him money, topped up his farecard, paid his phone bills in the initial stage...husband is a smoker..wife thought that husband would reduce amt of ciggies he takes, in the end after 1 day, he finished one whole small pack. and asked the wife to buy another one for him.. do u think he has learnt his lesson>?? -
the wife has already informed the husband that she wants to start saving for their future...they dun have even 1000 dollars savings yet...and the wife is now working, earning not a lot too..Originally posted by sillyme:has the wife had a good talk with the husband about financial burden the wife is facing yet? -
i think i better take myself out of this husband/wife thing...
a practical solution is necessary... and what is practical to me, isn't to most people
my last thoughts about this (trying to be practical)
the guy ought to know better.... seems like he's not really mature enough to handle any responsibilities... some soul-searching is necessary for him as he needs to address the situation... there is more than just himself to think about.. there's also the team... he needs to cut apron strings... stand up for himself...
wife? sit down talk to him, list the things she can do, what are their joint responsibilities to their union... what ways can be done to cut expenses... all that.. agree upon it..
overall, there is a feeling that maturity and thought is lacking... -
oh... i think like what was mentioned.. husband had a good life right? hmm.. tough one..Originally posted by shutthehellup:the wife has already informed the husband that she wants to start saving for their future...they dun have even 1000 dollars savings yet...and the wife is now working, earning not a lot too..
becos, the husband doesn't see the need to change.. and he doesn't see the wife's intention.. but reacting to wife's behaviour..
i say.. let him continue his rice vege diet.. can wife cook dinner for husband? or make lunches? -
wife goes out early to work, and comes home in the evenings.Originally posted by sillyme:oh... i think like what was mentioned.. husband had a good life right? hmm.. tough one..
becos, the husband doesn't see the need to change.. and he doesn't see the wife's intention.. but reacting to wife's behaviour..
i say.. let him continue his rice vege diet.. can wife cook dinner for husband? or make lunches?
personally i think the wife also quite poor thing, see husband like that also heart pain, but yet there is a need to let husband grow up too. -
i'm not sure how the wife feels.. but i know it's hurting to see someone not change the way one wants.. but then, the wife should know that change don't happened overnight.. there's a possibility that the husband fail to see the point and not change.. change takes time.. all i have to advise to the wife is to be patient..Originally posted by shutthehellup:wife goes out early to work, and comes home in the evenings.
personally i think the wife also quite poor thing, see husband like that also heart pain, but yet there is a need to let husband grow up too.