To ALL FELLOW AIRSOFTERS
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zoik!
i found this place opposite the Scala in Kings X, selling airsoft at really low prices. Their prices r typically 10 quid or more lower for the same producs from SMK. I saw spring SMGS for as low as 9.99 (H&K MP7 A1)
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any other airsoft collectors want to discuss your collection, pls PM me. its not safe for u to disclose u own airguns unless your collection is overseas like mine.
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haha cool
i'm not familair with scala, but you should be aware that a couple of companies in china have been churning out cheap carbon copies of tokyo Marui products.
in most cases the magazines wont fit because of feeding or fitting issues, but things like the gearboxes and their components are interchangeable.
they use cheaper components like the motor but they still have decent velocity and rate of fire.
most of the popular products of Tokyo Marui's range - both AEG's and Springers have already been copied, the AK-47 has just come out as well.
Another company [one of the big names] is making either a GBB or an AEG version of the MP7.
if its marushin or maruzen, then you can bet on a gas-driven MP7, which would be quite cool.
so, it looks like Tokyo Marui has lost its grip on the airsoft market beyond the shores of its native land...
and China once again will be claiming another market [on the international side at least] for its own.
If you want support firepower, the Star [taiwanese] M249 [both standard and the shorty Para version] has finally hit the shelves in the uk, and comes with a 2,500 round ammo boxmag, and is about 350+ quid cheaper than the Classic Army rival. Top looks to be pushed out of its niche market.. -
hmmm. well most of the products in the shop looks to be 3P. don't actually think they're copies. in any case im popping in on mon to check them out properly.Originally posted by zoik:haha cool
i'm not familair with scala, but you should be aware that a couple of companies in china have been churning out cheap carbon copies of tokyo Marui products.
in most cases the magazines wont fit because of feeding or fitting issues, but things like the gearboxes and their components are interchangeable.
they use cheaper components like the motor but they still have decent velocity and rate of fire.
most of the popular products of Tokyo Marui's range - both AEG's and Springers have already been copied, the AK-47 has just come out as well.
Another company [one of the big names] is making either a GBB or an AEG version of the MP7.
if its marushin or maruzen, then you can bet on a gas-driven MP7, which would be quite cool.
so, it looks like Tokyo Marui has lost its grip on the airsoft market beyond the shores of its native land...
and China once again will be claiming another market [on the international side at least] for its own.
If you want support firepower, the Star [taiwanese] M249 [both standard and the shorty Para version] has finally hit the shelves in the uk, and comes with a 2,500 round ammo boxmag, and is about 350+ quid cheaper than the Classic Army rival. Top looks to be pushed out of its niche market.. -
out of interest, why springers?
why not GBB's?
or even an AEP? -
Just wondering.. heng and zoik u both are singaporeans right? stuudying overseas or working overseas?
If u come back to SG, what will you do to your UK airsoft collection? -
Wondering if u guys here are letting out any of yr items... If so u can look for mi.... Thanks...
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Sorry man, my offer is to Singaporeans in residing in Singapore.Originally posted by mrwonderful:Thats an unusual choice.. is that the sidearm used by the police or MPs? I think only got one version of the gbb varient for the p228
Since you are in UK, I guess you would have no problems purchasing airsoft.
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China AEGs cheapens the quality and elegance of the original Tokyo Marui AEGs. China manufacturers are theives because they can't create so they steal other people's ideas.Originally posted by zoik:haha cool
i'm not familair with scala, but you should be aware that a couple of companies in china have been churning out cheap carbon copies of tokyo Marui products.
in most cases the magazines wont fit because of feeding or fitting issues, but things like the gearboxes and their components are interchangeable.
they use cheaper components like the motor but they still have decent velocity and rate of fire.
most of the popular products of Tokyo Marui's range - both AEG's and Springers have already been copied, the AK-47 has just come out as well.
Another company [one of the big names] is making either a GBB or an AEG version of the MP7.
if its marushin or maruzen, then you can bet on a gas-driven MP7, which would be quite cool.
so, it looks like Tokyo Marui has lost its grip on the airsoft market beyond the shores of its native land...
and China once again will be claiming another market [on the international side at least] for its own.
If you want support firepower, the Star [taiwanese] M249 [both standard and the shorty Para version] has finally hit the shelves in the uk, and comes with a 2,500 round ammo boxmag, and is about 350+ quid cheaper than the Classic Army rival. Top looks to be pushed out of its niche market.. -
hi i am a singapore resident....
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indeed, but unfortunately the global market doesnt seem to care and the chinese manufacturers have been pushing hard.
unfortunately its also the cause of some major problems - most notably of its cheapness leading to its accessability to those we would rather not have access to it - ie. the common street thug or criminal or the stupid little kids that go and take these, and commit criminal or harrassing acts with them.
in the eyes of the law there is no difference between people who use them legitimately [like wargaming, training] and those who dont.
i believe that this was the way airsoft went in singapore and the uk is following..
this has led to the acceleration and now the introduction of the Bill in the uk which is going to strangle airsoft until its dead, and also taking with it childrens toys and anything remotely gun-shaped.
personally, i wouldnt buy the cheap plastic chinese copies anyway as they hold little interest for me, and lack the out-of-the-box performance ive come to expect from other manufacturers.
the chinese manufacturers i do go for though are people like classic army [yik fung?] and the taiwanese manufacturers [ksc/kwa/g&g/g&p] as they do produce quality pieces [and full metal guns which arent exactly available in japan due to various restrictions on the market, so TM would never be able to make them], with high performance out of the box - no need for upgrades - and can be better in some cases than the TM equivalent.
Also, they can also produce products that TM are quite clearly never going to produce - like the HK33, the SOPMOD M14, the G36K, M60's, M249's, MP7's, the L85, and for a long time, the M14.. -
no such money.Originally posted by zoik:out of interest, why springers?
why not GBB's?
or even an AEP?
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perhaps. but i want to see what sort of prices u offer.Originally posted by max_headroom:Sorry man, my offer is to Singaporeans in residing in Singapore.
Since you are in UK, I guess you would have no problems purchasing airsoft. -
im planning to get PR in UK.Originally posted by mrwonderful:Just wondering.. heng and zoik u both are singaporeans right? stuudying overseas or working overseas?
If u come back to SG, what will you do to your UK airsoft collection?
in any case i've got friends whom i can leave stuff with. -
letting out, meaning?Originally posted by steve19:Wondering if u guys here are letting out any of yr items... If so u can look for mi.... Thanks... -
selling i presume.
btw, i'm not singaporean.. -
oh selling. heh no.Originally posted by zoik:selling i presume.
btw, i'm not singaporean.. -
It would be expensive. But it will still be cheaper then owning an airsoft legallyOriginally posted by HENG@:perhaps. but i want to see what sort of prices u offer. -
give a quote? just so i can compareOriginally posted by max_headroom:It would be expensive. But it will still be cheaper then owning an airsoft legally -
if talking about sg, i believe you need some kind of import licence as well as other paperwork just to be able to keep them.
would be easiest to just join the airsoft club in sg and ask them to keep your guns for you.
i'll probably end up doing that. -
Don't you find that troublesome? Besides, it will be more expensive to own one legally and the choices are quite limited. Only GBB pistols and no AEGsOriginally posted by zoik:if talking about sg, i believe you need some kind of import licence as well as other paperwork just to be able to keep them.
would be easiest to just join the airsoft club in sg and ask them to keep your guns for you.
i'll probably end up doing that.
No skirmish too -
hmm, well, if i'm bringing my gear over [at its height i had 30-40 odd guns] - then i might try and sort out some kind of arrangement. you never know, it might work out.
at least i wouldnt be buying my 15-year old collection all over again.
i recall speaking to some people who i think briefly ran a skirmish site in singapore, and they said that they shut down due to alot of pressure - but i still think theres a market for it..
and if not airsoft, theres RAM.
theres still that CQB RAM-based site operating in sg isnt there?
RAM comes in the form of M4's, MP5's and Glocks, and newly released are fully functional [cocking action and mag-empty non-functioning are features of the new system] Kalashnikov's.
Sure you'd need to wear heavy duty protection [think paintball] but you can apply real world firearms techniques in the deployment of these weapons.
afaik, there are AEG's legally in sg. i've seen them. -
i used to belong to that airsoft club which ran ranges at marina sq n orchard pt.
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That club was dead and buried a long long time ago. Fucked up equipments too. All their TM AEGs have very bad maintaince
I still remember it was a damn hassle to get in to the range and shoot and 1 bb cost about 10cents
FUCK! What a con job that place is. No wonder the boss got sued.